September marks the arrival of autumn, with longer nights and the closing of the brown trout season at month-end. To help you make the most of this fishing season, I’m excited to share…
12 great flies for September.
These fly patterns not only excel in catching trout but are also highly effective for grayling fishing on the scenic Welsh Dee.
Whether you’re a novice or a seasoned angler, these insights are bound to enhance your September fishing experience.
Understanding my selection of flies for September
Before diving into the specifics of my fly recommendations, it’s essential to understand the natural flies prevalent in September on UK rivers. These include the following up-wing flies, sedges and terrestrials:
Up-wing flies:
- Large Dark Olive
- Pale Watery
- Blue-winged Olive
- Iron Blue
- Autumn Dun
- Medium Olive Dun
Sedges & Others:
- Caperer
- Cinnamon sedge
- Black Gnat
- Daddy Longlegs
Streamlined Fly Selection
After meticulously reviewing my fly fishing log from the past five years, I’ve identified the three flies that consistently outperformed the rest in September, accounting for a…
Despite the variety of natural flies, I’ve simplified the selection process.
remarkable 65% of my trout and grayling catches:
- 30% on Black Hopper (#14)
- 20% on March Brown Spider (#16 & 14)
- 15% on Pearl-ribbed March Brown Spider (#16 & 14)
There’s a bias in my September fly selection because most of my trout and grayling fishing has been when the river was close to its summer level. Whereas, when the Welsh Dee was in spate, I was often fly fishing for salmon.
If I’d spent time fishing for trout and grayling when the river was in spate, nymph patterns would…
knock the wet flies off their top spot.
My Go-To three-fly cast for September
If you’re unsure about what flies the fish are taking, I recommend starting with a versatile three-fly cast on 3lb copolymer:
- Point: #14 Black Hopper
- Middle Dropper: #14 March Brown Spider
- Top Dropper: #16 Pearl-ribbed March Brown Spider
These flies have consistently produced results for me in September and should serve you well.
Single fly cast selection for September:
If you prefer fishing with a single fly in September, your selection should depend on two factors:
- surface-feeding activity, and
- water conditions.
When trout and grayling are actively feeding on surface flies, March Brown Spider patterns in sizes #14 and #16 are hard to beat. Their consistent success makes them an ideal choice for targeting rising fish in streamy, clear water.
March Brown Spider
- Hook: Kamasan B170 #14 & 16
- Thread: Waxed orange UNI 8/0
- Body: Hare’s ears fibres of varying length & colour
- Rib: Medium gold wire
- Hackle: Brown partridge neck feather
Pearl-ribbed March Brown Spider
- Hook: Kamasan B170 #14 & 16
- Thread: Waxed orange UNI 8/0
- Body: Hare’s ears fibres of varying length & colour
- Rib: Pear Mylar fine
- Hackle: Brown partridge neck feather
Next, When fish are not actively feeding at the surface, fishing a Black Hopper just below it is often an excellent choice to tempt both trout and grayling.
Black Hopper
- Hook: Kamasan B170 size 14
- Thread: Black UNI-Thread 8/0
- Body: Black seal fur substitute
- Rib: Uni Pearl Mylar (1/32)
- Legs: Black pheasant tail
- Hackle: Black (natural) hen
Additional wet fly patterns for September:
Two other wet flies that have featured prominently in my fishing log are the Treacle Parkin (red-tagged version) and the Peter Ross. These flies have unique qualities and can be valuable additions to your fly box.
The Treacle Parkin is best fished on the top dropper of a three-fly cast and has been the downfall of many grayling on the Welsh Dee.
Treacle Parkin (red-tag)
- Hook: Kamasan B170 #16
- Body: Brown UNI-Thread 8/0
- Tag: Red UNI-Thread 8/0
- Body: Peacock herl
- Hackle: Brown hen
The Peter Ross is a great point fly for brown trout feeding on fry in the slow pools. In addition, it will often entice the sea trout on dull days.
Peter Ross
- Hook: Kamasan B170 #14 & #12
- Thread: Black UNI-Thread 8/0
- Tag: Golden Pheasant Tippet
- Body: Silver tinsel & claret dubbing
- Rib: Fine silver wire
- Wing: Teal flank feather
- Hackle: Black hen
Wet fly fishing in September
When the river is close to its summer level, I find it best to focus your wet fly fishing efforts on the following sections of the river during the day:
- the fast water leading into deep pools;
- shady areas, particularly under overhanging trees & bushes;
- alongside weed beds, large rocks, ledges, and snags;
- the tails of pools, especially in the evening.
However, in the evening, the slow sections of pools often come alive with rising trout and grayling and thus should not be ignored.
Now let’s consider what to do if the above flies for September fail to catch trout and grayling.
Trout and grayling dry flies for September:
When trout and grayling are preoccupied with taking dry flies, the best approach is to try and match the hatch.
Usually, a rough fly match in general size and colour will suffice in September. Many of the natural flies you will encounter are olives. Therefore, an olive dry fly pattern in various sizes and shades will often suffice.
Over the years, a small F-fly in various colours (black, grey, olive, etc.) has proven to be one of the best dry flies for September on the Welsh Dee and River Ribble.
F-fly in various colours
- Hook: Kamasan B170 #16 & 18
- Thread: Black UNI 8/0
- Body: Fine dubbing (black, olive etc.)
- Wing: 3 CDC feathers
For trout and grayling feeding on tiny flies, it is necessary to go smaller, and #20 or 22 fly usually does the business.
In poor light, following small dry flies during the drift is difficult. Therefore, I will use a dry fly fishing set-up where the small fly is trailing (ca. 3ft) behind a large sight fly (often an Elk hair caddis).
Elk hair caddis
- Hook: Kamasan B170 #16 to 12
- Thread: Burnt orange UNI 8/0
- Tag: Cream Antron
- Body: Fox squirrel dubbing
- Rib: Gold wire
- Wing: Natural Elk hair
On warm evenings in September, the Elk hair caddis is a good pattern because it catches lots of trout and grayling; particularly when they are feeding on sedges hatching at nightfall.
As the light fades it becomes difficult to see the rises. At this point, try fishing this caddis across and downriver so that it skates on the surface. This method has caught me some…
smashing trout, grayling and sea trout.
On bright sunny days, you might find that dry and wet fly fishing fails to catch fish. So, let’s now consider what you might do to avoid a blank.
Nymph flies for September success:
Euro / Czech nymphing is not everyone’s cup of tea, but it’s worth having in your armoury for when Autumn arrives.
In September, when trout and grayling are feeding on the riverbed and not rising to flies higher in the water column…
Nymphing can produce excellent results.
In clear rivers, fishing size 16 or 18 nymphs above a heavy tungsten bead (3+ mm) nymph has been fruitful
My recommended nymph patterns for clear water include:
Claret nymph
- Hook: HENDS BL345 #16 & 18
- Bead: 1.5mm tungsten purple
- Thread: claret UNI-Thread 8/0
- Body: claret UNI-Thread 8/0
- Thorax: Mole fur
- Wing case: Pearl Mylar 1/8”
TB Quill nymph
- Hook: Hends #16 & 18
- Bead: 1.5 tungsten
- Thread: Red UNI-Thread 8/0
- Tail: Coq de Leon fibres
- Body: Stripped peacock quill
- Thorax: Hare’s ear dubbing
For coloured water, however, I opt for fishing nymphs with some a touch of “Bling” and often find success nymphing with the following flies:
Olive Tungsten Jig-back
- Hook: Hends BL154 (#12)
- Weight: copper XL-tungsten jig-back
- Thread: orange UNI-Thread 8/0
- Body: stretched clear latex
- Rib: brown wire
- Throat: Pink nail varnish
- Coating: UV – Varnish
Orange collar PTN
- Hook: Hends BL154 (#12 & 14)
- Bead: metallic orange tungsten (3-4mm)
- Thread: orange UNI-Thread 8/0
- Body: Pheasant tail fibre
- Rib: gold wire
- Hackle: CDC feather
- Collar: Veniard glister sparkle orange dubbing
Streamer fishing for trout in September.
As autumn progresses, brown trout often feed on fry, especially in coloured water.
Streamer fishing can be highly productive during these conditions, particularly when ‘normal’ fly fishing methods might fail.
Occasionally I’ve caught brown trout on the Welsh Dee with small half-digested grayling protruding from their mouth. That led me to try Minkie fly patterns.
Consider using patterns like the Grayling Streamer, which has proven successful in enticing brown trout in these situations.
Streamer – Grayling fry
- Hook: Kamasan KB800 #10
- Thread: Black 8/0
- Body: Pearl Glister dubbing
- Wing: Grey zonker strip
- Eyes: 4 mm Epoxy
- Head: Clear UV resin
Streamer fishing with a fast-sinking line on a flooded Welsh Dee has saved the day on numerous occasions.
Check out the following post for information on fly fishing for grayling during autumn:
Also, you might find these posts on exploits on the Welsh Dee in September interesting…
- Game fishing in September on the beautiful Welsh Dee
- September fishing report: A ‘Grand Slam’ on the amazing Welsh Dee
- Fishing for reliable grayling on the wonderful Welsh Dee
The above fly selection is reliable for catching trout and grayling in September. Thus, a great starting point for a newcomer to fishing the Welsh Dee and other rivers in the Northwest.
There are some good day ticket beats on the Welsh Dee to experience some tout and world-class grayling fishing.
Finally, I hope you found this post interesting, and it would be great to hear about your best trout flies for September.
Appreciate all the information you have done Andrew excellent tell what are you straight line nymphing methods or something else
Hi Ian,
If there are no fish rising I normally fish nymphs ” short line nymphing / Czech nymphing” because that seems to work best. On my website under the techniques page, there is a post on my approach.
Thanks for the feedback on the post. Cheers, Andrew
Yet again Andew very informative
next time I am at the River Dee BODSA beats I will definitely try your fly.
great blog
Hi Ronnie,
Thanks for the feedback on the post and I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Good luck the next time you’re out fishing. Cheers, Andrew
Hi Andrew I am new to fly and river fishing. The information that you produce is really helpful. Come the autumn and winter I shall be planning trips to Welsh Dee beats. I am no fly tire but the details that you give will help me in my purchase choices. Look forward to your future posts – cheers Steve
Hi Steve,
Great to hear you are finding the articles useful and interesting. Also that for the feedback because it’s good to know how the blog post are received.
Cheers, Andrew
Hi Andrew enjoyed your refreshed piece on fly fishing the Dee , which I finally have plans to visit on 19th to the 22nd Sept after 3 years of trying . My Friend and I plan to fish around Llangollen / Corwen on a day tickets – what beats would you recommend we start on ?
Hi Alan,
If the river is at its summer level then all of the beats should fish well but might be best to start on the upper beat. If we finally get some water then it will depend on the river height – probably best to drop me a mail nearer the date.
Regards, Andrew
Alan Hine. Corwen angling no longer do day tickets.
Come the month/change of season comes the first class advice for river fishing!
Thank you once again Andrew for cutting through all the blizzards of advice and sharing your clear, simple-to-follow instructions on fly types, methods and times.
The advice may be centred on the R.Dee but I can tell other readers that they apply just as successfully to our Derbyshire rivers.
Hi Charles,
Great to hear you enjoyed the post and thanks for the comments on its content – always useful.
Cheers, Andrew
Many thanks, another very informative article!!
Hi Nick,
Pleased to hear you enjoyed the post.
Cheers, Andrew
Hi Andrew, always a pleasure to view your articles. Just wish I lived nearer to the Dee. Keep up the good work and tight lines.
Great content as always Andrew. I have been down to the Boat Inn today where we spoke a few months back in the car park. Over the past few (dodged) months my top performer, hands down, has been a Pearly Kate McLaren. Mostly on the dropper.
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the fly tip – I will tie a few to try.
Cheers, Andrew
Great selection of flies Andrew, I would just add the partridge and orange that I find a great catcher in low water.
Cheers
Hi Ian,
really informative for someone who has come over from coarse match fishing.
really good all round and I’m getting out there putting your tips into action.
10/10
cheers
andrew
Hi Andrew. I was on the Dee on Tuesday evening and had a great session on the dryfly. I had 10 grayling with the best nearly 2lb. River in cracking condition and hoping to come back at the weekend.
Hi Nick,
Great to hear you had a good day’s fishing. The grayling fishing has been improving over the last couple of weeks but this hot weather might slow things a little. Mornings and evenings will be best for a while. I hope you have a good trip again at the weekend.
Tight lines, Andrew
Great advice Andrew, always a pleasure to read.
Went out myself on the Dove yesterday evening and streamer fished (water slighly high and coloured) and was slammed by various large chub! Didn’t encounter any trout unfortunately but I know they are there – need to spend more than an hour I think. The chub were stronger and bigger than I expected, so made up for it really as they all o back in.
Hi Charles,
It sounds like you had a good day on the river. I will have to try the streamers on a stretch of the Dee that has plenty of chub in it.
Tight lines, Andrew
Hi Andrew
Despite a difficult year health wise followed now with arthritis and waiting for a shoulder op your welcome fly and fishing bulletins are keeping me sane and in touch with the fishing world
thank you
P G
Hi Phil,
I’m glad my blog is keeping you interested while you are unable to fish. I hope you are back on the river soon.
Cheers, Andrew