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Grayling fly fishing in Autumn with a focus on the beautiful Welsh Dee

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Grayling fly fishing provides a fantastic opportunity to continue fishing when the trout and salmon fishing seasons close and avoids having to hang your waders until spring.

After a brief introduction, this article will cover all the key elements of how to catch grayling in autumn, i.e.

  • Essential tackle requirements for grayling fly fishing
  • Grayling fly fishing tactics for September, October, & November

Introduction

A grayling is a beautiful fish with a silvery body, a distinct ‘rainbow’ coloured dorsal fin, and a graceful demeanour until hooked!

Thus, it’s not surprising that the grayling is often called the…

“Lady of the Stream”

Welsh Dee grayling caught at Llandderfel
The lady of the stream – grayling fly fishing

The grayling fishing season can vary slightly between rivers but is similar to that for coarse fish. On the Welsh Dee, a river I regularly fish, the grayling fishing season starts on the 16th of June and runs through to the 14th of March.

Grayling are members of the salmon family but unlike their relatives, grayling spawn in spring, and thus, come into prime conditions during autumn and winter. As such, they can often be relied upon to feed when the temperature drops to freezing.

Consequently, if you’re hardy enough, you can still fly fish for them when there’s snow on the ground or during a long spell of freezing weather.

So, let’s begin by briefly covering what fly fishing you’ll need to begin fly fishing for grayling…

Grayling fishing tackle requirements

If you fly fish for trout on rivers, you’re likely to have all the grayling fishing tackle needed. Outlined below are the essential fly fishing tackle requirements to cover dry, wet, and nymph fly fishing for grayling.

Grayling fly fishing rod & reel

A standard 9 to 10ft fly rod rated from 3 to 7wt with an appropriately matched reel will allow you to fly fish for grayling using dry flies, wet flies and nymphs.

My preference for dry and wet fly fishing for grayling is a soft-action, 9ft-6”, 5wt rod. Whereas, for Euro / Czech nymphing I use a lightweight 10 to 11ft 3# fly rod. Currently, I favour an 11ft 3# Vision Nymphmaniac fly rod matched with a Vision XLV nymph reel.

Grayling caught at Llandderfel in March
Grayling fly fishing rod

Fly Lines

The fly line should be matched to your rod. For wet and dry fly fishing I use a WF5 floating line (Airflo Lake Pro WF5). A standard dry fly line matched to your fly rod can be used for nymphing. However, I prefer to use a low-diameter (0.6mm) specialist nymphing fly (Airflo SNF Euro Nymph) because it helps with bite detection during windy conditions.

Leader & Tippet

For grayling dry fly fishing I use a 12ft copolymer or monofilament 3X tapered leader and add 3ft of 3 or 4 lb fluorocarbon tippet. On windy days switch the leader from a 12ft to a 9ft 3X tapered leader.

When fishing a team of three wet flies or spiders I use a 7ft copolymer or monofilament 5X tapered leader and add 6ft of 3 copolymer tippet for two droppers.

For Euro / Czech nymphing use a simple leader system composed of 6 to 9ft of 4lb fluorocarbon (Airflo Sightfree G3 Fluorocarbon), with 2 or 3 droppers spaced 18″ apart.

Fly fishing accessories:

  • A landing net with a magnet release clipped on the back of your jacket
  • A bottle of dry fly floatant – I use Gink
  • Line degreaser – I use Fulling Mill Fuller’s Mud
  • Something to dry the fly – I use a dry microfiber cloth
  • Insulated waders
  • Neoprene gloves and warm clothing for when it gets cold.

Now the essential grayling fishing tackle requirements are covered, let’s get into the ‘MEAT’ of fly fishing for grayling during the autumn months…

September grayling fly fishing
Grayling fly fishing in September on the Welsh Dee

Grayling fly fishing tactics for September

Autumn can be a confusing time because two dates can be used to mark the start of autumn:

  • 1st of September, which is the meteorological autumn, or
  • the autumn equinox, which is the 22nd of September this year.

Also, September is a transitional month, where the weather transitions from a summer to an autumnal feel. As such, the weather in September can vary from an Indian Summer (unseasonably warm, dry weather) to a cold, wet, and windy affair.

Consequently, you’ll need to adapt your grayling fly fishing tactics to cover the full spectrum of river conditions from drought to flood.

Fortunately, large numbers of grayling can be caught as the temperature cools during September because they start to feed aggressively to fatten up for the leaner months ahead.

Double hooks when fishing a team of flies or nymphs are a distinct possibility at this time of year…

Grayling fly fishing in Autumn
Grayling fly fishing – September double hook-up

Fly fishing for grayling on mild days in September

In September, there is still a variety of natural flies that you are likely to see hatching on UK rivers…

Up-wing flies

Sedges & Others:

  • Caperer
  • Cinnamon sedge
  • Midges

Mild, overcast days when the river is running clear usually present a great grayling dry fly fishing opportunity.

Sight dry fly fishing opportunities…

are LOST on stumbling to the river bank.

Carefully approaching the river is the way to proceed…

It will enable you to spot any large grayling lying in shallow water. Then, take some time to observe your quarry to determine…

  • whether it’s feeding,
  • what fly is being taken,
  • and how best to present the dry fly without spooking it.

At best you’ll only get one or two casts before it’s spooked and dashed for cover.

If there’s no evidence of it feeding on dry flies it’s worth selecting an olive imitation and having a cast…

Often it will have been just lying there waiting for some food to present itself.

Prospecting for grayling with the dry fly…

Once opportunities for sight fishing have taken the next step is fishing deeper water with the dry fly.

On spotting a grayling rise others will likely be close by because, unlike trout, grayling are often found in shoals. Therefore, it’s beneficial to cover water nearby with the dry fly because often it will produce one or two more grayling.

Even in the absence of any rising grayling, it’s possible to tempt grayling that are feeding on the riverbed with the dry fly, especially in water less than 4-5ft deep.

Wet fly fishing for grayling…

Fishing a team of wet flies and/or spiders for grayling can produce some fantastic sport when dry fly fishing fails. My preferred locations for wet fly fishing are fast riffles that run into large pools and the tails of pools.

I normally fish a team of three flies on a tapered leader with the flies spaced 3ft apart on a 3lb copolymer tippet (total leader length 15ft). In windy conditions, I shorten the leader and drop to fishing one or two wet flies. This approach has served me well for over 20 years.

Wet fly selection for September depends on what flies you expect to see on the river. However, if you don’t know then my recommendation would be to start with the following three-fly cast on 3lb copolymer (point: #14 Black Hopper; middle dropper: #14 March Brown Spider; top dropper: #16 pearl ribbed March Brown spider)… 

Flies for september team of 3 wets
Grayling fly fishing – wet flies for September

because they continue to serve me very well during September.

Fly fishing for grayling on cold September days

On days during September grayling will be predominantly feeding aquatic insects (Caddis larvae, upwing nymphs, freshwater shrimps, etc.) close to the riverbed. On these unseasonably cold days, the best approach to catching grayling will be fishing close to the riverbed with a team of nymphs.

Short-range nymphing techniques (Euro nymphing or Czech nymphing) are usually the best approaches to a successful day fishing for grayling.

If the river is running clear, I find fishing a team of nymphs that closely resemble the size and colour of the natural aquatic insect present in the river works best. Sometimes a flash of colour in one or more of the nymphs being fished improves the catch results.

For example, the following three nymphs fished on 4lb fluorocarbon leader (point: #12 pink collar pheasant tail nymph 3mm TB; middle dropper: #16 Hare’s ear quill nymph 1.5mm TB; top dropper: #18 claret nymph 1.5mm TB). 

czech nymphs for grayling fishing
Clearwater nymph selection for grayling fly fishing in September

If the river is coloured I normally use large colourful nymphs (#14 to 10). Check out the following post with more information on the best grayling flies for September…

Now, let’s take a how grayling fishing changes as we enter October…

Grayling fishing tips for October

By October the memories of summer have gone, and deciduous trees are shutting down for winter with a final display of autumn colours from golden yellow and oranges, through to vivid reds.

Autumn grayling fly fishing jenny jones
Grayling fly fishing in Autumn on the Welsh Dee

It’s such a beautiful time to be out grayling fly fishing.

Temperatures continue to fall during October and at the end of the trout season, my focus turns to fly fishing for grayling.

In October, fly hatches on UK rivers become less prolific. However, on mild days you’re still likely to see any of the following flies on mild days.

Upwing Flies

Sedges & Others

Fly hatches occur during the warmest part of the day. Therefore, be prepared to switch to the dry fly from either nymphing or wet fly fishing because…

Happy Hour’ often ends as quickly as it starts!

October is usually a wetter month than September because of the weather fronts rolling in off the Atlantic. As such, river levels are higher and fly fishing with nymphs for grayling often yields the best results.

October fishing report - pipe pool grayling
October grayling fly fishing

Check out the following post with more information on the best grayling flies I use in October…

Moving on into November, let’s take a how fly fishing for grayling changes now the clocks have been turned back…

Grayling fly fishing tips for November

In November, the last month of Autumn, the weather in the North West can range from a mild 16oC to a wintery sub-zero. For mid-November, the long-term historical average high & low temperatures are 9oC & 5oC, respectively.

Top Pool - Grayling fishing in November
Welsh Dee grayling caught in November

The clocks have been turned back but nature is unaware of this…

Therefore, arrive at the river an hour earlier at the beginning of November to avoid missing the brief, all-important fly hatches…

Upwing Flies

  • Large Dark Olive

Sedges & Others

  • Midges

On mild days (ca. > 10oC) when the river is running clear it’s likely you’ll see grayling taking flies at the surface. Under such conditions, you can have a… 

grayling bonanza fishing dry & wet flies”

Whereas, when a chill sets in and the temperature drops below 5oC, grayling are often found feeding close to the riverbed. This is when Euro /Czech nymphing becomes the best grayling fly fishing technique.

Grayling fly fishing at Llandderfel on the Welsh Dee

Check out the following post that has more information on the best grayling flies (dry, wet and nymphs) I use during November…

Well, that’s it for grayling fly fishing in Autumn, and I hope you found it interesting and informative.

If so, you’ll be interested in the post covering “Winter fly fish for Grayling“.

P.S. If you are interested in grayling fly fishing in autumn there is some excellent day ticket water on the Welsh Dee Llangollen and Bangor on Dee.

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Tim Jones
3 years ago

Great blog Andrew. I have noticed as October draws to an end the surface feeding are very spasmodic

Andrewoverend1
3 years ago
Reply to  Tim Jones

Hi Tim,

Even if you don’t see any rises it still worth drifting a dry fly over places where you think grayling might be. You’ll be surprised how many grayling surface out of the blue and take it, even in the winter months.

Glad you enjoyed the post. Cheers, Andrew

Alan Burdett
3 years ago

Hi, Andrew and many thanks for the Grayling blog – unfortunately as I live in Flintshire the Upper Dee is “out of bounds” to me as the waters in your blog are in either Denbighshire or Gwynedd! That said, I really enjoyed watching you get amongst the Grayling, and learned a lot re the tactics you used. Keep up the good work.

Alan

Andrewoverend1
3 years ago
Reply to  Alan Burdett

Hi Alan,

It’s great to hear you enjoyed the blog post. Hopefully, you will be able to get on the Welsh Dee next year.

Keep safe, Andrew

3 years ago

Thanks, Andrew, for the informative article. I love fishing in Autumn and go fishing in my leisure hours. Grayling fishing is new to me. I must purchase fly lines to practice fly fishing and must start to implement the grayling fishing tips mentioned above during my next fishing session.

Dave Froy
2 years ago

Great report, lots of very useful information..

Andrewoverend1
2 years ago
Reply to  Dave Froy

Cheers

Ian Duncalf
2 years ago

Another excellent read Andrew very well documented and advice on fly selections

Andrewoverend1
2 years ago
Reply to  Ian Duncalf

Hi Ian,
Glad you liked the post and thanks for the feedback.
Cheers, Andrew

Peter Astbury
2 years ago

Once again a great blog Andrew, I really enjoyed the video. May I ask you about the knots you use especially for fluorocarbon line and what knot do you use if joining it to mono?
regards Pete

Andrewoverend1
2 years ago
Reply to  Peter Astbury

Hi Peter,
I normally use a double grinner knot for joining fluorocarbon to copolymer. A grinner knot to tie on a fly. For adding droppers I use a surgeon’s knot. I hope this helps.
Thanks for the feedback on the blog.
Cheers, Andrew

Dave
2 years ago

Great blog ad allways keep it up

Andrewoverend1
2 years ago
Reply to  Dave

Cheers

Barrie Lancaster
2 years ago

I have fly fished for over 60 years and, each time the Trout season ends, I resolve to try for grayling over the Winter period, so far having failed to make it happen. This is the year !!!, and your article looks to be my ideal guide in all its aspects. I have purchased new rods matching your suggestions and will be tying suitable flies for use on my local river, The Ribble.
I hope to report back, in due course with my progress.
Thanks for all your messages and articles. They are much appreciated.

Andrewoverend1
2 years ago

Hi Barrie,

Great to hear the article has encouraged you to give grayling fishing a go on the Ribble. It would be great to know how you get on.

Cheers, Andrew

1 year ago

Great article as per usual, especially the equipment used. One day l will actually venture on to the Dee.

Andrewoverend1
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Mulligan

Great to know you enjoyed the post.

Sarah C
1 year ago

Really useful. I am determined to extend my fishing season this year and not stop with the trout.

Andrewoverend1
1 year ago
Reply to  Sarah C

Great

1 year ago

Thank you really so much Adrew for this exhaustive blog ,It helped me a lot on my firsts approaches to the river Dee last year , where I worked even with my long time experience on the Slovenian and Austria rivers , having unexpected achievements with the flies I was used to fish in there .

Andrewoverend1
1 year ago
Reply to  Vicofly

Great to hear you enjoyed the post. Cheers, Andrew

Sam McDougall
1 year ago

Another fantastic blog Andrew, I am gearing up for a winter of Grayling fishing on the Welsh Dee. Really appreciate the work that goes into your posts, really excellent stuff

Andrewoverend1
1 year ago
Reply to  Sam McDougall

Hi Sam,

Pleased to hear you enjoyed the article and good luck with the grayling fishing.

Tight lines, Andrew

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